Lets say he got 15% less than Soto, which if he continues to play like he did in 2022 is not likely, that would mean his one pre-arb year and his 4 arb years would look like this: Spencer Strider's salary is $710,000 per year, which includes a $0 signing bonus. Armed with a four-seam fastball averaging 98.5 MPH and a slider sporting a 42.9% whiff rate, Strider possesses exciting fantasy upside with his ability to miss bats and sport a low WHIP and ERA . While no one can predict the future, ATL knows these players theyre extending better than anyone. This is one time a record truly means nothing. Cant see that happening. Hopefully he also didnt mean Scherzer, one terrible wildcard game from an elite pitcher like him still doesnt make him crap. And he performed on a cheap contract for what he produced. Fried is the one you need locked up. Must be a great place to play if they can get all these young guys to sign for long term. These guys are used to winning together, and I would expect that to continue. Only if its a Top-2 mustache, and it is. See more salaries for 2021. Without me teaching you how trade valuations are correctly built, I cant debate with because I think so, I have to explain how I got that answer. Sure, lofty but possible. Shouldnt you still be ranting about how the Division race was over in May? Id bet serious coin Swanson wont give up the money some GM who still believes in career years will throw at him. Actually they did.. Youre ignoring hes going to be Top 3 in the ROY so hes going to get granted an extra year of service time. Noah Syndergaards arb years: $3M (2018), $6M (2019), $9.7M x 2 (2020 & 2021). Draft: Drafted by the Cleveland Indians in the 35th round of the 2017 MLB June Amateur Draft from Christian Academy of Knoxville (Knoxville, TN) and the Atlanta Braves in the 4th round of the 2020 MLB June Amateur Draft from Clemson University (Clemson, SC). He started 20 times and finished three . Creating a winning environment. The Braves are collecting talent at bargain prices, while the Marlins are paying too much for Avi Garcia and Jorge Soler, The Mets will pay a ton for for Brandon Sir Only Walks And Nothing Else Nimmo, the Phillies are paying a fortune to Harper who is the Carmelo Anthony of baseball (OK, but much better), and the Nats can no longer get stars to sign with them. The Albies deal is a massive savings, Acuna nearly as much. Not sure what your point is, but throwing 100 mph doesnt mean crap for a number of reasons, one there are guys like Mauricio Cabrera:, Bruce Rondn, Henry Alberto Rodriguez:, Joel Zumaya:, Tayron Guerrero, Bobby Parnell, who have touched 103 mph and none have made anywhere near that money and all had problems turning velocity into results. As a Mets fan, I love what the Braves are doing and their fans should be excited. Spencer Strider's net worth $1 million. There is nothing historically to say that even if they were absurdly expensive compared to other pitchers that it would even match what he was promised. The Braves completed a remarkable late-season rally to capture the top spot in the NL East for the fifth straight season. Good thing you waited until Strider got lit up in playoffs to respond. Strider, 24 later this month, will earn $1MM both in 2023 and 2024. Thats the salary of players in year 2 and 3. There are so many reasons this could go bad and we arent even talking about the new pitch clock, the pickoff throw rules, and other changes to the game itself. Over the next 6 years youd probably end up paying him $40m anyway, making the cost of your gamble roughly $40m, since presumably youre paying the buy out in 2029. Great point about Matt Harvey and didnt he have an arm injury? Brilliant. The Braves are getting 2 years of FA for $44 million total. To be fair, the Apple games are absolutely free for anyone to watch and with no blackouts, so thats not one of the bad deals. One thing is certain: he divides his time between the four MLB teams Spencer Strider- Birth, Age, Ethnicity, Siblings, Education Strider is expected to start in Game 1 of the series. Fantasy baseball: Which prospects have fantasy value in 2023? But Swanson is not nearly as good as those guys. Half these contracts wont work out. Waves of injuries can derail any team at any time, but health-permitting, the Braves are going to be good for a long, long time. It wouldnt be fair to the rest of the players. Youre lucky if you get to see them at all. Mets698622(LOL on the 22), Harvey was in no way better than Strider at this stage of his career. I see Grissom in the outfield with Harris/Acuna next year. There are way too many moving pieces to just guarantee blowing past the luxury tax. Shewmake is about ready though and they could sign a veteran cheap to platoon with him or just keep Dansby and use Shewmake as trade bait. $140 per post at $7/CPM. $25M (2027) Imagine they had given a deal like this to Mike Soroka after his amazing rookie season in 2019. $35M (2028 FA year). Early Years of Spencer Strider Or 40 million a year for Max. Just cause they run this site doesnt mean they have some secret gift to know where players will sign and I never had a doubt he was headed there, since he was a Pirate. Research when he was drafted by the Yankees coming out of High School. I see it as a risk vs. He was a big reason why the Braves had the fifth-best ERA in the league. Brilliant! His current contract terms are 6 yrs/$75M (23-28) & 29 team option. Again, perhaps Im wrong, its my outsiders perspective. It was a tough choice passing on the Yankees, but he wanted to experience college. Swanson 11.2 WAR. $10M (2025) Its about rewarding the player. People who dont have money always assume having money means being reckless with it, but those that have wealth and maintain their wealth, never spend it frivolously. If you swap those times it would be a 1pm local start in LA, at least this way its a 4pm local start in ATL. Guy is putting up Randy Johnson numbers. The Braves are a Smart Proactive Organization. Not to mention at that point, many of the players might even decide to wait out until free agency and refuse any potentially team friendly deals. For someone like me who can only watch my team on national broadcasts due to the unavailability of my teams cable channel at a decent price, getting to watch them on TV (instead of settling for the radio like usual) a few extra times a season thanks to the Apple deal is great. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. Theres talk ones coming. They are respected as a team on the field, but not as a market. He was also selected as the July National League Rookie of the Month. Thats why you compare first full season and Harvey was a lot better. The Clemson product cracked the Braves Opening Day roster in 2022, initially working multi-inning stints out of the bullpen before ascending to the starting staff, where he not only found success but emerged as a bona fide front-of-the-rotation arm. It doesnt benefit both parties, Alex A. is a moron that has signed so many extensions that even with all the great deals he got done, the average $$$ is pushing $180M after only 15 of the contracts. Spencer Strider has a net worth of $1,167,934. One could argue that, though. You can set your browser to block or alert you about these cookies, but some parts of the site will not then work. The league would never agree to that. Strong post NashvilleJ: thanks for mentioning the agent relationship angle. Salary Spencer Strider's salary is $710,000 per year, which includes a $0 signing bonus. Two east coast teams in ATL/PHI with two west coast teams in LAD/SD pretty much guarantees youre going to go in this order. Just saying. Vons king of the hill when it comes to Phils fans on here. The work that Alex Anthopoulos is doing with the Braves is outstanding. LOL best rookie season ever. If he has any hope of living up to this contract, Strider will have to play the whole year on the MLB roster for 2023 without injuries. AA is saving money collectively and signing his core players. He quickly established himself as one of the teams hardest fastball players. The rotation is so strong that 39-year-old Morton, who re-signed for one year and $20 million, could possibly. Next up resign Dansby. https://community.fangraphs.com/velocity-and-the-likelihood-of-tommy-john-surgery/. Love to see it for the player, team and the fan base. Thing is Baez/Story both have been more consistent with their bats (even Baez, lol), while providing defensive value. He wasnt before 2020. To qualify for the Super Two designation, players must rank in the top 22 percent, in terms of service time, among those who have amassed between two and three years in the Majors. Your justification for the contract makes no sense. I dont count him anyway as hes not exactly in his first or second year. It looks good for these first few years and probably bad for the last 2-3, but overall seems like a good value. Ozzie Albies is controllable through the '27 season. Personally, I think the key is to get control of extra free agent years in exchange, but even there they didnt do that well by only getting one or two of them. The Braves pay their 1.66 mil per season regardless for that. Actually, I think the Braves are taking on more of the risk. Hes getting old and is owed a good chunk of change still. Soto is going back to the Nats after 2024. The only thing accurate is the potentially, saved, and money. Golden struck out 276 in his rookie campaign. The information does not usually directly identify you, but it can give you a more personalised web experience. The Braves have zero middle infield prospects on their top 4 mil teams. He made $8 mil last year and $17 mil this year. Howd that one play out? Signed thru 2028, 6 yrs/$75M (23-28) & 29 team option, Service Time (01/2023): 1.003 Around $150 million for those 7 seasons. Thats conjecture, you stating what his arb years would or wouldnt be considering the volatility of pitchers, players with less than two years of major league experience, players with less than 150 major league innings, and who have barely seen each team once, when pitching has the advantage over hitting when neither has faced each other. It's also available for football, basketball and hockey. Not to sound too negative, since there are also positives in his hitting profile, but Id have concerns going too long term with him. But all of that is irrelevant, if he starts pitching like he did in Game 3 of the NLDS!! 3rd year $25.5 mm, and This was a pretty high gamble on the risk/reward scale. /s, Id use the Baez contract as a baseline 23AAV over 6. Look what Gerrit Cole was able to get. Be patient, dont retype your message, it will there in a minute, I think when this kid told the media after a loss to the Mets that they got cheap, bloop hits and were luckythen follows it up with well see how they are in October, spoke volumes on his make up and confidence. Exceeded rookie limits during 2022 season, 2023 Contract Status: Hes top ten talent. Rct and Cosmos2 are the two Met commenters on the site that most fit this description. The braves do like to buy out arbitration years where they can. Apply it to all of the offensive players theyve done the same with. You think that contract for Strider isnt a slap in the face to guys in that clubhouse? Many observers have compared Strider's pitching style to Houston Astros ace Justin Verlander. They couldve done that with a 6 year deal for $45M with a $25M option. They also have a lot of money coming off the books this yr and next with internal options available to replace these players. Not me. I mean I wouldnt even extend a player if they are going to get 85% or more of their contract by going year to year. Swanson is not as good as those guys. 2. Morning after getting knocked out plus Striders dig at them a few months ago about not being as good as their record and stats showed meltdown city. What exactly do those look like? TO make the math easy lets just say by 20%. Hes played every regular season game but 2 over the last 3 years. Spencer Strider is one of the best young pitchers in the Atlanta Braves organization. HOWEVER, because he will only have 2 years and 3 days, he will not be in the top 22% of service time for guys with more than 2 years and less than 3 years. No I said youre disingenuous because youre trying to use the 2 1/3 ML inning pitched by Strider as a full season comp to Harvey. They are usually only set in response to actions made by you which amount to a request for services, such as setting your privacy preferences, logging in or filling in forms. Strider and Braves teammate Michael Harris II are very likely to finish first and second in the NL Rookie of the Year voting in either. Im sure Ill get roasted with comments on letting Shewmake run with SS but Im trying to be reasonable. They even got an opt out in the form of a cheap buyout if he crashes prior to his last year the Braves control. Corbin Burnes is entering his 5th full season and 2nd pass through arbitration, which is only projected to pay him $11.3M. Even if Strider had Bob Gipsons 1968 season or even put up Verlanders 2022, there is no precedent for this contract. High School: Christian Academy of Knoxville (Knoxville, TN), School: Clemson University (Clemson, SC), Debut: Worry about your own team of aging stars and average players. 5-to-1 Strider has TJ surgery again in the next 5 years. Strider was added to the Atlanta active roster on October 1, 2021, and made his main league debut with one inning of relief against the New York Mets. Nothing like leaning $15M/year against the cap instead of $1M by rushing to make a long-term deal with almost no chance of it showing positive value! To see the rest of the Spencer Strider's contract breakdowns, & gain access to all of Spotrac's Premium tools, sign up today. Its all Monopoly money past a certain point and this core has dynasty potential. Its not close. What's the Dodgers' plan at shortstop? They signed him to a lucrative six-year, $75 million extension on October 10. This. Because we respect your right to privacy, you can choose not to allow some types of cookies. You make deals based on current results and future expectations. The Braves made this deal on the assumption that Strider will both be Top 2 in ROY voting, giving him an extra year of service time, and Top 5 in Cy Young voting giving the team an extra draft pick. While he had great numbers, it was in 2/3 of a season and I have to believe those strikeouts fall off with general usage and fatigue, while also becoming more hittable as his velo drops and his breaking balls lose shape. No its not at all about that. The Apple TV games are absolutely free to watch, no paid subscription required and no blackouts on the service itself! Well strider pitched last year too. Not a super bargain like Albies Acuna but its fine. Cant believe that AA lets him leave. Become a Stathead & surf this site ad-free. However, blocking some types of cookies may impact your experience of the site and the services we are able to offer. Strider is now expected to join the Braves Opening Day roster in 2022. 3rd ARB year was supposed to be $21.5 MM. @ice. Dynasty, Mets are going to spend and bankrupt Cohen while winning absolutely nothing. Strider will absolutely get a raise from his last arbitration year, so even a modest raise means the Braves save $20 ++ million in those two seasons alone. Prior to this deal, the five-year, $35MM contract Madison Bumgarner signed with the Giants more than a decade ago stood as the record extension for a pitcher with between one and two years of service time. If his performance stays this high he will make over $80 million in his pre-arb year and those 4 arb years. $25M (2028 Option), If he blew the lid off previous seasons with year-to-year, it would be like, $1M (2023) It happens, occasionally. Thats pretty much the point: Those arbitration payouts are only worth it at about a 95%+ projection of his future value, whereas they should be paying close to the 50% projection if even that much. All of this assumes he basically pitches like this year (not a full season, but elite performance) going forward. Thats an unlikely worst case for a phenomenal SP, but its there. Spencer Robert Strider (born October 28, 1998) is an American professional baseball pitcher for the Atlanta Braves of Major League Baseball (MLB). If Free Agents make $40M in five years, if hes healthy, if he remains productive. But blowing a 7 1/2 game lead on August 7 and losing 6-7 to the primary opposition is absolutely a choke job. Baezs peak, two 6 rWAR seasons in 2018-19, are something Swanson only came close to in 2022 (though, pro rated, his 2020 would have gotten close). Short and skinnier pitchers dont hold up well, as a general rule. Extra year for having a mustache. Question, Comment, Feedback, or Correction? Meanwhile, those games arent even broadcast on local cable, since you again just have to watch on Apple TV instead. Take Ohtanis arb for an example, $30MM for next season. Career Earnings: View Spencer Strider 's Teammates Salaries Current Contract: If you dont believe me or you think there is something to argue look at non Super 2 Corbin Burnes and Super 2 Max Fried and youll see that their $19-22.5M through 5 service years each is a fraction of the Strider deal, despite All-Star appearances, Gold Gloves, Silver Sluggers, and a Cy Young award between them. I wouldnt be surprised if he was pitching injured. He has not provided any specifics about his life, including his parents and siblings details, as well as any history linked with his youth. Injuries are 75% covered by insurance The Braves stepped up and want Morton to do it again, for $20m. We anticipate him being really good because he was yesterday in the pen. For the same price Id much rather have Swansbys 2023=2028, than Baezs 2022-2027. To be fair, theyve made it much more difficult on fans. If youre a Tigers fan, you probably should hope Baez opts out after 2023. They are paying $44 million max for both years and its likely that a single season of a TOR starter in 5 years will cost close to that much. Disagree on my mets. Login Here. Contracts are not based on the back end, they area based on value as a whole. $14M (2026) Matt Harvey had a higher ERA and lower K/9 and higher BB/9 in his first season. Its just false. Yes a 2.67 ERA is better then a 2.27 ERA. That means he had a good year, unlike 2022. If Swanson signs a $110-115MM extension, hes probably leaving at least $40MM on the table. The contention window is wide open for years now. Conversely, How about them Mets? ~$22M (Arb3) Braves are the best run organization in all of baseball. If that happens, he will have 2 years and 3 days of service time. Phillies are in the WS. Thats more than just the best rookie season ever. Youre the one who seems to be carried away w/your attempts to belittle Strider. He made his MLB debut in 2021 and now plays for the Mississippi Braves, Gwinnett Stripers, Augusta GreenJackets, and Rome Braves. $22M (2027) You have? $1M (2024) Unless youre LA, NY or Boston, you play early. Besides, they could just as easily lock up those years of free agency at a somewhat higher but much less risky price by just waiting a year or two to make sure hes for real. Dansby is gone. Story 16.2 WAR Swanson is better then Baez. So now we have $55 mil. And no, he does not get credited with two years of service time for this year because he spent the whole year on the major league roster AND was a ROY finalist. He will finish next year with exactly TWO FULL YEARS OF SERVICE!! The annoying part is we are charged a fee as part of our cable packages to get YES, but more games this year have been splintered off to Prime, Apple and Peacock. The Braves are taking the approach knowing that not all of these deals will pay out, including Striders. There is a reason pitchers are not given long term deals because it is more risky than giving those deals to hitters because of injury and even then, the hitters rarely justify the extensions. hflew: This is the first pitcher (out of the 6 players) theyve signed to an extension. If he spent the whole season on the major league roster he is definitely NOT a Super Two. Strider is now under contract with the Braves [] ft. is going for $60M+. Christian Academy of Knoxville (Knoxville, TN). With future commitments, he still has a lot to accomplish in his life. They control his first two FA years for somewhere in the range of $40-50MM total, depending how aggressively you want to project his arb numbers and only one of the two years is even guaranteed. LMFAO. He was drafted in the 35th round of the 2017 MLB Draft by the Cleveland Indians, however, he did not sign a contract with them. Why? Google elude. Thats 65m, plus his first 3 years. Ive had it with my cable provider. @bravesnation nc Not my recollection at all, friend. Good luck finding someone who doesnt think hell get back to those heights at 25 years old. If his contact rate and barrel rate drops a little, his strikeout total will skyrocket even higher and his homeruns will fall off a cliff. Spencer Strider Rumors & News Bats: R Throws: R Height: 72 Weight: 195 Age 23 Seasons: 1 Salary: 570,500 Birthplace: Columbus, Ohio College: Clemson Rumors & News Videos Photos TalkingChop Feb 8, 2023 Daily Hammer Podcast: The Braves Could Feature Some of the Best Brands in Baseball Dont see how it could be an issue. Ambioris Tavarez, SS 11. He wouldve made around $1M per pre-arbitration year in 23 and 24, anyway. Feb 22, 2023 at 3:11 pm ET 1 min read. Using multiple accounts on the same thread shows a much bigger disconnection from reality. $35 million is reasonable figure for FA. $8M (2025) So say he has an impingement, needs surgery, and turns into a 4 ERA SP who goes 120 innings a yearabout the worst case for a dominant 23 year old. Strider kept it humble when discussing the extension with 'Bally Sports': The Atlanta Braves will begin their NLDS series against Bryce Harper and the Philadelphia Phillies on Tuesday. Agree on braves. Marlins will never have the fanbase to be elite. No one is making obscenely more then the other. Was Strider ever partially responsible for a teammates death? You sound like you have a community college education in accounting. For instance, John Blitzer tried saying Soto was worth almost $200M in excess value for 2.5 seasons, while still paying him $60M in salary. They shouldve gotten at least 3 guaranteed free agent years plus an option year for that kind of heavy payout, and even then its unnecessarily risky for the team compared to other early career extensions. SALARY Bo Bichette, SS, TOR. Fried is also entering his 5th full season but his 3rd arb year and hes set to make $12.2M for an All-Star appearance, 2 GG, 1 SS, and a career FIP of 3.30. He is definitely a Super Two candidate. Spencer Strider, RP, ATL. Position players tend to be better values when extensions are considered, especially in terms of injury risk. Sure there is a chance that the Braves might save $20 million plus if Strider becomes an ace, but they are far more likely to waste $20 million plus if he doesnt. Hes the steady eddie kind of player that gets under valued by fans. But it would certainly not be enough to be among the top 22 percent of players in that class (the lowest the Super Two cutoff has been since 2009 is 2 years and 115 days after 2019). As much as the Acuna and Albies deals were highway robbery they still havent been good cause theyve been hurt or half what they were. Darius Vines, RHP 5. View a free real draft analysis of a fantasy baseball league featuring 12 teams in a STD format. If he continues to dominate, his arm years wouldve skyrocketed. Acuna contract was great. Dynasty. Disclamer: the number about Spencer Strider's Instagram salary income and Spencer Strider's Instagram net worth are just estimation based on publicly available information about Instagram's monetization programs, it is by no . Early career extensions are designed to give the team a discount and especially not overpay for their arbitration years. Not sure who he /them is/are, but I betcha Freddie wishes he wouldve had him/them last off season. Cohen would give his first born to have Strider. If the right billionaire acquired them and they signed say Judge, Trea and Arenado, this would be one truly awesome team and their payroll would still be less than several other teams. They help us to know which pages are the most and least popular and see how visitors move around the site. @Pads Fans Him being on the roster all year actually means he WONT be a Super Two. Good thing Shane Spencer wasnt on the Braves for 2 months this season, they wouldve given him $100m. And it becomes contagious in the clubhouse imo. What about Georgias racist voting rights? Are we going to have any money left for Dansby with all these signings? Mets fans are horrible (imo) bc all they do is whine BUT they show up and support their team (while still whining). Considering Burnes won a Cy Young and has had a microscopic ERA for three straight seasons with a career FIP of 2.85, thats probably the 85 percentile of Strider reaching his potential, IF you buy into one season of work and think hes a generational pitcher. I think thats not quite that straightforward. Victor Vodnik, RHP 14. Frieds totals so far are $3.5M, $6.85M, and a potential $12.2M, which is $22.5M in arbitration through three passes at this point. While Steve offers a hypothesis of free agent years costing $40M or more annually, the reality is Scherzer may be the best pitcher of his generation, Kershaw and Verlander included and his $40M was clearly an overpay, evem on a short deal. The 2022 Atlanta Braves played 162 games during the regular season, won 101 games, lost 61 games, and finished in first position. Strider is going to bonuses left and right which wouldve added to his arb numbers if he went that route. These rookies contracts are just starting to be the front office getting over their skis and thinking they cant screw up.

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